Top two claims...
1. Jesus was not son of God
Movie
“My dear,” Teabing, declared, "until that moment in history, Jesus was viewed by His followers as a mortal prophet. . . a great and powerful man, but a man nevertheless. A mortal."
"Jesus' establishment as the Son of God was officially proposed and voted on by the Council of Nicaea."
Fact
- Jesus was viewed as divine from the very beginning of Christianity. He is referred to as God at least seven times in the New Testament and Lord as a divine title many other times.
- The earliest documents from the Christian church ascribe to Jesus divine status.
- The entire flow of the Old Testament requires that God come into the world, as Immanuel
2. That he had a relationship with Mary Madgelan that lead to them having a child
Movie:
"When Grail legend speaks of 'the chalice that held the blood of Christ' … it speaks, in fact, of Mary Magdalene - the female womb that carried Jesus' royal bloodline."
Fact
- No wife exists in any scripture of Jesus, in his life when he was tried and crucified, or after his death.
- The legend of the Grail is indeed about the lost cup from the Last Supper. But biblical language about a mothers’ womb is always a reference to protection, never about bloodlines. Indeed, shed blood was always about the opposite of birth, that is, death.
Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Wednesday, July 27, 2011
Film Study- ‘The Green Mile’
1. How are any four of the following themes from the letter to the Ephesians displayed in the film?
-Grace: Grace is shown from the way Paul, Brutal, Dean and Harry respects, helps and comforts John during his time in Death Row. Paul has a close relationship with John, trying to understand his pain and believing that he is a gift from God. Paul also shows grace by treating the prisoners with respect by allowing them to order what they want for their last dinner before the execution. Paul also shows grace by allowing ‘Del’ to keep Mr. Jingles.
-Forgiveness: Forgiveness is shown from John by forgiving Paul and the prison guards for executing him, because he didn’t hold a grudge.
-Light and darkness: They all transform by John because they believed that there was something more to him. John believed that there was a place beyond this, thus believing that there was a light and something better than all the darkness and pain.
-New life: John Coffey creates new life through the Mr. Jingles, healing Paul and healing Melinda Moores. For his crime, John tried to heal the two girls that were murdered, but couldn’t.
2. What impact does John Coffey have on Paul? Explain.
The impact that John has on Paul comes from the way John sees the world in a different light from everyone else, and how he is a gift from God, having a special power, which is to heal.
3. How does the film change the way in which you look at life?
From watch the film I have understand the meaning of grace, forgiveness, light and darkness and giving new life. I have also learnt about second chances, if a person has done a crime and has changed, within themselves, than that person deserves a second chances.
-Grace: Grace is shown from the way Paul, Brutal, Dean and Harry respects, helps and comforts John during his time in Death Row. Paul has a close relationship with John, trying to understand his pain and believing that he is a gift from God. Paul also shows grace by treating the prisoners with respect by allowing them to order what they want for their last dinner before the execution. Paul also shows grace by allowing ‘Del’ to keep Mr. Jingles.
-Forgiveness: Forgiveness is shown from John by forgiving Paul and the prison guards for executing him, because he didn’t hold a grudge.
-Light and darkness: They all transform by John because they believed that there was something more to him. John believed that there was a place beyond this, thus believing that there was a light and something better than all the darkness and pain.
-New life: John Coffey creates new life through the Mr. Jingles, healing Paul and healing Melinda Moores. For his crime, John tried to heal the two girls that were murdered, but couldn’t.
2. What impact does John Coffey have on Paul? Explain.
The impact that John has on Paul comes from the way John sees the world in a different light from everyone else, and how he is a gift from God, having a special power, which is to heal.
3. How does the film change the way in which you look at life?
From watch the film I have understand the meaning of grace, forgiveness, light and darkness and giving new life. I have also learnt about second chances, if a person has done a crime and has changed, within themselves, than that person deserves a second chances.
Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Malcolm X vs Dr. Martin Luther King Jnr.
Malcolm X:
The values and believes that Malcolm X believes in doing the right thing to someone, they should do the same in return to you, but if they don't do the right thing and oppose everything than you shouldn't treat them the same as a person doing the right thing. He also believes that we should forgive people who remorse the decisions that they have done and thus forgive them. But if someone doesn't remorse the decisions that he or she has committed than they should not forgive them.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jnr:
He believes that crime, violence isn't the answer for every wrong doing that we do. We should forgive everyone for the good and bad morals.
I prefer in what Malcolm X has said because that's divides the good and bad side of ourselves. It makes us human. We forgive the people who have remorse the bad decisions they have made and we forgive. But we try not to forgive a person who has done something really bad and not remorse about it. How can you forgive someone who believes that?
The values and believes that Malcolm X believes in doing the right thing to someone, they should do the same in return to you, but if they don't do the right thing and oppose everything than you shouldn't treat them the same as a person doing the right thing. He also believes that we should forgive people who remorse the decisions that they have done and thus forgive them. But if someone doesn't remorse the decisions that he or she has committed than they should not forgive them.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jnr:
He believes that crime, violence isn't the answer for every wrong doing that we do. We should forgive everyone for the good and bad morals.
I prefer in what Malcolm X has said because that's divides the good and bad side of ourselves. It makes us human. We forgive the people who have remorse the bad decisions they have made and we forgive. But we try not to forgive a person who has done something really bad and not remorse about it. How can you forgive someone who believes that?
Wednesday, April 27, 2011
Grace in Life Scenario
What would be a gracious response from Mario towards his former wife?
I believe that he would allow his wife, Jenny to see their children on regally occasions. He would forgive her, but still have pain for what she had done to him. This would also be best for the children to have a mother figure.
I believe that he would allow his wife, Jenny to see their children on regally occasions. He would forgive her, but still have pain for what she had done to him. This would also be best for the children to have a mother figure.
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
Son of God
Compile a summary list of the findings/discoveries.
• Lost harbor in Ceastries
• Gospels
• Jewish scrolls over the Dead Sea
• Church in Bethlehem
• Star was an astronomical sign/ideas
• Aries Kingdom- sign
• Jupiter can be seen as a star
• Believe that Jesus was born 6 years earlier e.g. 6 A.D
• Believed that that Jupiter, Saturn, Sun and moon came into Aries
• Wise men could have been astronomers
• Recreate imagery
• Jesus wasn’t born in a stable, but in a cave
• Trading crossroads- Petra
• Jesus wasn’t born conceived conventionally
• Matthew and Luke disagree on sometimes in their gospels
• Islamic women can get stoned if you give birth and your not married
• Mary could have been killed because she was not married. She would have disgraced her family. Mary was pregnant out of wedlock
• Mary couldn’t have given birth to Jesus without Joseph. He smuggled her out to give birth to Jesus
• Said that Jesus had siblings
• Had dolls and played ball games
• Holy place, Jerusalem
• From Josephus’ accounts, they rebuilt (digital 3D) the city of Jerusalem
• Great meeting place: Temple
• God zapped him and taught him everything he knows
• Studied or learned from prophets
• Spent his time debating with Jewish priests
• Jews dreamed of a saver, named him the ‘Anointed One’. The Messier.
• John was cleansing people for the ‘Big Day’
• Jesus may be thinking about being ‘The King of the Jews’ for 40 days
• Come to believe that he was the Messier
• Baptism was a turning up point in his life. God convinced that wanted him to act
• Rebels in today was the same from back there
• Ripping people off, they weren’t going to the temple to worship
• He let Judas hand him over to the high priests- speculation
• Hatched a plan- Jesus and Judas
• Frustrated with God, while hanging on the cross
• Bodies was never taken down to the tomb, but the Animals took it down
• Bodies were normally taken down to the dump if the body was taken down of the cross
• Gospels insisted that the body was placed in the tomb
• Body stolen- speculation
• Mandrake was said to have healed Jesus- herbs (it was in use)
• Could that the mandrake be in the vinegar that was given to Jesus- speculation
• If Jesus did survey, why did the gospels mention it
• Resurrection never happened- speculation (do or don’t)
• After death, resurrection- live in the perfect Earth
• Jesus’ followers believe that he did resurrected, that’s why it is believe that Jesus was resurrected
• Skulls of people that were discovered could help create the image of Jesus- closer to the Jewish skulls (dated from the 1st Century)
• Gambled his life away, his legacy would change the world forever
• Inspired a new faith that shaped the world today
Compile a list of your thoughts/reflections about the findings/discoveries
My thoughts and reflections about the findings and discoveries that were presented in this documentary were very interesting and there were new evidences that they talked about that I had no idea about.
What impact does the documentary have on your appreciation of Christianity? Explain.
• Lost harbor in Ceastries
• Gospels
• Jewish scrolls over the Dead Sea
• Church in Bethlehem
• Star was an astronomical sign/ideas
• Aries Kingdom- sign
• Jupiter can be seen as a star
• Believe that Jesus was born 6 years earlier e.g. 6 A.D
• Believed that that Jupiter, Saturn, Sun and moon came into Aries
• Wise men could have been astronomers
• Recreate imagery
• Jesus wasn’t born in a stable, but in a cave
• Trading crossroads- Petra
• Jesus wasn’t born conceived conventionally
• Matthew and Luke disagree on sometimes in their gospels
• Islamic women can get stoned if you give birth and your not married
• Mary could have been killed because she was not married. She would have disgraced her family. Mary was pregnant out of wedlock
• Mary couldn’t have given birth to Jesus without Joseph. He smuggled her out to give birth to Jesus
• Said that Jesus had siblings
• Had dolls and played ball games
• Holy place, Jerusalem
• From Josephus’ accounts, they rebuilt (digital 3D) the city of Jerusalem
• Great meeting place: Temple
• God zapped him and taught him everything he knows
• Studied or learned from prophets
• Spent his time debating with Jewish priests
• Jews dreamed of a saver, named him the ‘Anointed One’. The Messier.
• John was cleansing people for the ‘Big Day’
• Jesus may be thinking about being ‘The King of the Jews’ for 40 days
• Come to believe that he was the Messier
• Baptism was a turning up point in his life. God convinced that wanted him to act
• Rebels in today was the same from back there
• Ripping people off, they weren’t going to the temple to worship
• He let Judas hand him over to the high priests- speculation
• Hatched a plan- Jesus and Judas
• Frustrated with God, while hanging on the cross
• Bodies was never taken down to the tomb, but the Animals took it down
• Bodies were normally taken down to the dump if the body was taken down of the cross
• Gospels insisted that the body was placed in the tomb
• Body stolen- speculation
• Mandrake was said to have healed Jesus- herbs (it was in use)
• Could that the mandrake be in the vinegar that was given to Jesus- speculation
• If Jesus did survey, why did the gospels mention it
• Resurrection never happened- speculation (do or don’t)
• After death, resurrection- live in the perfect Earth
• Jesus’ followers believe that he did resurrected, that’s why it is believe that Jesus was resurrected
• Skulls of people that were discovered could help create the image of Jesus- closer to the Jewish skulls (dated from the 1st Century)
• Gambled his life away, his legacy would change the world forever
• Inspired a new faith that shaped the world today
Compile a list of your thoughts/reflections about the findings/discoveries
My thoughts and reflections about the findings and discoveries that were presented in this documentary were very interesting and there were new evidences that they talked about that I had no idea about.
What impact does the documentary have on your appreciation of Christianity? Explain.
Monday, February 21, 2011
‘The Christ Files’: Student Questions and Tasks
What is unique about Christianity from an historical perspective?
Central can be checked out historically. We can check it out
What types of academic research into Christianity does the media usually report? Why do you think this is?
The scandalous side of Christianity e.g. texts that will get attention
When were the Gnostic Gospels written and what was there focus?
2nd and 3rd Centuries
Some people claim, on the basis of the Gospel of Phillip that Jesus married Mary Magdeline.
On what basis do they reach this conclusion and why do mainstream scholars challenge this thinking?
Manuscript that is held in Cairo; they mention Jesus kissing Mary Magdeline on the lips (they suggesting it’s the mouth can’t be sure because there is a missing word and the kiss could be a holy kiss). Mary Magdeline could be the ideal dispel.
What did Celsus in the late second century claim and how do his claims aid the case for Christianity?
Claimed Jesus had a dodgy birth. Mary had an affair and Jesus was an illegitimate son with a Roman soldier and Egyptian sorcery.
Who was Tacitus, when did he write and how is his writing helpful to the Christian cause?
When and were Jesus lived, that he was known as a Christ and the he was executed
Who was Pliny, when did he write and why is his writing helpful to the Christian cause?’
By a letter, he claims that they were worshiping Jesus as divine as God
What can be reliably claimed by historians on the basis of Greco-Roman writings?
Historical figure, teacher, from Palestine, Supposed king/Christ, Executed under Pilate
Who was Josephus and when did he write his history of the Jewish people?
?
What did Josephus have to say about Jesus?
Called him the Messiah. Wise man and did baffling things
Which part of Josephus’ writing are considered to have been tampered with?
The reference about Jesus coming alive
How does the discovery of possible tampering increase your confidence in the findings of historians?
If the text wasn’t tampered with then they can work out truth
What can be known about Jesus from Greco-Roman writing?
Mary, James
Ambiguous birth
Palestine, c 26-36AD
Teacher, miracle worker/ sorcerer
Roman/Jewish trails, crucifixion
Messiah, worshipped as divine
What was the point of the football match analogy?
To show that the biased of witness doesn’t effect the story. Matthew, Mark Luke and John could be biased but we can discover the truth.
How do scholars regard the Gospels and the New Testament and why does it not concern them that the authors were biased?
Best historical sources, Gospels and New Testament, valuable texts, reliable text about Jesus, historian but a collection of sources
When were Paul’s letters written?
New Testament, two separated sources, AD 48 and 64 AD
Briefly explain the criterion of multiple attestations.
Numerous sources say the same thing, historical reliable
Why is a 20-year gap between Jesus’ life and the first written accounts considered fairly well?
Historical terms: Isn’t that bad. Because people was relabel in memory
Why didn’t people write about Jesus sooner?
They didn’t read or write. No printing press
Why was oral communication regarded as much more reliable in Jesus’ time?
Important information, my listening to the information, because of the memory was well trained
Why is the Old Testament important to historians in understanding Jesus and his activities?
Because it was things Jesus said and did. It explains the last supper in more detail. It has a connection with Jesus and the ‘prophecy’ (predictions).
Central can be checked out historically. We can check it out
What types of academic research into Christianity does the media usually report? Why do you think this is?
The scandalous side of Christianity e.g. texts that will get attention
When were the Gnostic Gospels written and what was there focus?
2nd and 3rd Centuries
Some people claim, on the basis of the Gospel of Phillip that Jesus married Mary Magdeline.
On what basis do they reach this conclusion and why do mainstream scholars challenge this thinking?
Manuscript that is held in Cairo; they mention Jesus kissing Mary Magdeline on the lips (they suggesting it’s the mouth can’t be sure because there is a missing word and the kiss could be a holy kiss). Mary Magdeline could be the ideal dispel.
What did Celsus in the late second century claim and how do his claims aid the case for Christianity?
Claimed Jesus had a dodgy birth. Mary had an affair and Jesus was an illegitimate son with a Roman soldier and Egyptian sorcery.
Who was Tacitus, when did he write and how is his writing helpful to the Christian cause?
When and were Jesus lived, that he was known as a Christ and the he was executed
Who was Pliny, when did he write and why is his writing helpful to the Christian cause?’
By a letter, he claims that they were worshiping Jesus as divine as God
What can be reliably claimed by historians on the basis of Greco-Roman writings?
Historical figure, teacher, from Palestine, Supposed king/Christ, Executed under Pilate
Who was Josephus and when did he write his history of the Jewish people?
?
What did Josephus have to say about Jesus?
Called him the Messiah. Wise man and did baffling things
Which part of Josephus’ writing are considered to have been tampered with?
The reference about Jesus coming alive
How does the discovery of possible tampering increase your confidence in the findings of historians?
If the text wasn’t tampered with then they can work out truth
What can be known about Jesus from Greco-Roman writing?
Mary, James
Ambiguous birth
Palestine, c 26-36AD
Teacher, miracle worker/ sorcerer
Roman/Jewish trails, crucifixion
Messiah, worshipped as divine
What was the point of the football match analogy?
To show that the biased of witness doesn’t effect the story. Matthew, Mark Luke and John could be biased but we can discover the truth.
How do scholars regard the Gospels and the New Testament and why does it not concern them that the authors were biased?
Best historical sources, Gospels and New Testament, valuable texts, reliable text about Jesus, historian but a collection of sources
When were Paul’s letters written?
New Testament, two separated sources, AD 48 and 64 AD
Briefly explain the criterion of multiple attestations.
Numerous sources say the same thing, historical reliable
Why is a 20-year gap between Jesus’ life and the first written accounts considered fairly well?
Historical terms: Isn’t that bad. Because people was relabel in memory
Why didn’t people write about Jesus sooner?
They didn’t read or write. No printing press
Why was oral communication regarded as much more reliable in Jesus’ time?
Important information, my listening to the information, because of the memory was well trained
Why is the Old Testament important to historians in understanding Jesus and his activities?
Because it was things Jesus said and did. It explains the last supper in more detail. It has a connection with Jesus and the ‘prophecy’ (predictions).
Monday, February 7, 2011
Term 11 Apologetics- Introductory Questions
What are your thoughts about the Bible?
I believe the Bible is made up of the truth and great hope in what people believe in and just stories for people who don’t believe.
What are your thoughts about Jesus?
It just depends on what people believe in. He can be focused as a great man who gives hope to help who wants to believe that there is something to believe in.
What is your reaction to the Christian claim of Jesus’ resurrection?
I don’t know.
What do you think about the miracles of Jesus recorded in the New Testament?
He is portrayed as a great healer, prophet, man and a person who is shown to lead the way throw times of hardship and pain. He is a leader to people who want to believe that there is hope. He is the light when there is dark in people.
What, in your view is the purpose of life if any? Explain
The purpose of life is unknown. We can’t know for sure but people believe in everyone has a purpose on this planet. I believe we all have a purpose in what we do and who we become. To make a difference in life.
What difference (s) if any, is are there between Christianity and other religions? Explain
Yes. There is a huge difference between Christianity and other religions. This is shown by the Gods or Goddesses that are portrayed through the other religions. The rituals each domain portray, the worshiping routine that each individual who is part of a different religion uses.
I believe the Bible is made up of the truth and great hope in what people believe in and just stories for people who don’t believe.
What are your thoughts about Jesus?
It just depends on what people believe in. He can be focused as a great man who gives hope to help who wants to believe that there is something to believe in.
What is your reaction to the Christian claim of Jesus’ resurrection?
I don’t know.
What do you think about the miracles of Jesus recorded in the New Testament?
He is portrayed as a great healer, prophet, man and a person who is shown to lead the way throw times of hardship and pain. He is a leader to people who want to believe that there is hope. He is the light when there is dark in people.
What, in your view is the purpose of life if any? Explain
The purpose of life is unknown. We can’t know for sure but people believe in everyone has a purpose on this planet. I believe we all have a purpose in what we do and who we become. To make a difference in life.
What difference (s) if any, is are there between Christianity and other religions? Explain
Yes. There is a huge difference between Christianity and other religions. This is shown by the Gods or Goddesses that are portrayed through the other religions. The rituals each domain portray, the worshiping routine that each individual who is part of a different religion uses.
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